She's back! You loved her first episode on perfectionism and today we are talking joy. Today's guest psychotherapist, and author of The Perfectionist's Guide to Losing Control: A Path to Peace and Power Katherine Morgan Schafler really knows the value of allowing ourselves more joy in our lives. Most of us want a more joyful life but why does it seem hard? Or does joy seem scary sometimes? We get into it today. Katherine talks about different ways we can invite more joy into our lives or look at where the resistance is. Enjoy!

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