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Joyful Energy, Unbreakable Spirit


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Surviving Adversity and Choosing Happiness

Naseem Rochette shares her profound journey of resilience, reframing trauma, and the radiance of joyful energy, exploring how vulnerability, gratitude, and authentic connection can foster unbreakable spirit and inclusive belonging.

In this powerful episode of The Inclusion Bites Podcast, Joanne Lockwood is joined by Naseem Rochette to explore the profound impact of reframing adversity into opportunities for growth and connection. Naseem recounts the harrowing experience of being run over by a car three times and the resulting journey through trauma, resilience, and transformation. Their conversation delves deep into the emotional realities faced in the aftermath of life-changing events—from the disorienting lack of remorse from others, to the necessity of accepting help, and the discovery that energy, whether positive or negative, shapes both one’s perception and the reactions of those around us. Joanne and Naseem discuss the significance of ‘Unbreakable Day’, choosing joy as a principle, and the challenges of staying centred on kindness and optimism in a fragmented world.

Naseem is an award-winning author, renowned keynote speaker, and advocate for joy who helps others reframe their stories and embrace personal growth during life’s toughest moments. Rooted in her Indian heritage and shaped by a childhood of both insecurity and festivity, Naseem’s journey spans corporate experience at Microsoft, extensive recovery from significant trauma, and the authorship of ‘The Unexpected Benefits of Being Run Over’. She brings an authentic voice, blending vulnerability with optimism, and now supports individuals through coaching, speaking, and candid storytelling—demonstrating that openness about struggle builds deeper connections and that reframing adversity can lead to renewed strength and self-acceptance.

Joanne and Naseem reflect on the transformative power of shifting perspective, the myth of instant resilience, and the importance of building inclusive, meaningful relationships—especially in times of crisis. They highlight the need to allow space for difficult emotions, to show grace to oneself and others, and to celebrate not only large achievements but also the incremental steps towards healing and connection.

The key takeaway from this episode is that cultivating joyful energy and embracing vulnerability enables genuine inclusion and belonging. Listeners will discover practical wisdom on reframing traumatic experiences, supporting others through adversity, and prioritising connection over perfection. This episode is an essential listen for anyone seeking hope, resilience, and inspiration to navigate life’s challenges with an unbreakable spirit.

 
Published: 09.01.2026
Recorded: 06.06.2025
Duration: 0:56:39
 
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    Clips and Timestamps

    The Power of Joy: “I think it’s that desire to get back to joy and the, you know, when I was. Thought I was dying, you know, like thinking about the joy of my life, I think those things kept me going, you know, and so I try to keep that front and centre.”

    — Naseem Rochette [00:05:48 → 00:06:03]

    Near-Death Epiphany: “And one of those things was when I was underneath the car thinking, you know, I don’t even say 99, I was a hundred percent sure I was going to die. I started reflecting back on my life and you know, having those end of life thoughts.”

    — Naseem Rochette [00:13:07 → 00:13:19]

    The Importance of Presence Over Perfection: “even though I’m. They’re going to lose their mom, they know who I am because we’ve had that joy. I’ve been present, I’ve, I’ve filled, you know, their life with love and I felt so good about that.”

    — Naseem Rochette [00:13:54 → 00:14:07]

    Viral Topic: The Power of Accepting Help

    “Accepting help, letting people help, is actually another dimension of strength. And sometimes that’s about them because they need to participate in the journey, you know, whether or not I, I might need the support, you know, and, and that when you let yourself have the support, sometimes it’s just really, it’s really beautiful how people want to give and help and, you know, do good.”
    — Naseem Rochette [00:31:11 → 00:31:34]

    Viral Topic: The Power of Reframing

    “your storey can change, your storey can change. And there’s so much power in reframing.”
    — Naseem Rochette [00:33:13 → 00:33:20]

    Viral Topic – The Power of Sharing Personal Struggles: “We’ve all gone through something and when we share what we’ve been through, we, we also give licence to other people to share.”

    — Naseem Rochette [00:34:04 → 00:34:10]

    Viral Topic: The Power of Self-Kindness: “many of the people that first read the book said that’s what they took, that they needed to learn to be kinder to themselves because we are so judgy with ourselves, you know, but if we, we remember, like, it’s okay if we’re not. Life is going to change. It is absolutely going to change.”

    — Naseem Rochette [00:39:15 → 00:39:32]

    The Transformative Power of Trauma: “There’s so much power in those tough moments. There’s so much we learn and grow from that most of us don’t spend any time thinking about because tough moments always seem like downers.”

    — Naseem Rochette [00:41:37 → 00:41:51]

    Viral Topic – Embracing Change After Trauma: “But it turns out the new ways in which I solve problems and delve into things has been more successful for me.”

    — Naseem Rochette [00:52:23 → 00:52:30]

    Viral Topic: Navigating Grief and Trauma Conversations: “I know that now that when somebody’s in trauma, asking them how they are is a really tough question because they don’t know how they are and they don’t want to lie to you and they don’t want to pretend everything’s fine.”

    — Naseem Rochette [00:52:51 → 00:53:57]

    Definition of Terms Used
    What is Reframing?
    • Definition: Reframing is the cognitive process of changing the perspective or narrative around an event or experience, particularly challenging or traumatic ones, to find more positive meaning or growth opportunities.
    • Relevance: In this episode, reframing is highlighted as a powerful technique for transforming setbacks—such as traumatic injuries—into sources of strength, agency, and even joy, shifting from victimhood to empowerment.
    • Examples: Renaming the anniversary of a traumatic accident from “the day I almost died” to “Unbreakable Day,” celebrating survival and resilience rather than loss. Choosing to focus on life lessons rather than deficiencies after trauma.
    • Related Terms: Positive Psychology, Cognitive Restructuring, Growth Mindset, Narrative Therapy. Common Misconceptions: Reframing is sometimes mistaken for toxic positivity or denial, when in fact it involves realistic and intentional reinterpretation, not suppression of negative feelings.
    • What is Kintsugi?
      • Definition: Kintsugi is a traditional Japanese art form that repairs broken pottery by mending cracks with lacquer mixed with powdered gold, silver, or platinum, thus highlighting rather than hiding the damage.
      • Relevance: Used metaphorically in the episode, kintsugi symbolises embracing one’s scars and life experiences as integral parts of one’s identity, making individuals “more beautiful” and resilient because of, not despite, their brokenness.
      • Examples: Applying the idea by wearing gold glitter on facial scars to celebrate, rather than conceal, evidence of survival after a serious accident. Referencing kintsugi as a framework for personal growth after trauma.
      • Related Terms: Post-Traumatic Growth, Healing, Resilience, Self-Acceptance. Common Misconceptions: Some believe kintsugi is about returning to an original, flawless state; however, its philosophy is about transformation and finding value in imperfection.
      • What is an Unbreakable Day?
        • Definition: “Unbreakable Day” is a term coined in the episode to describe the anniversary of surviving a life-altering, traumatic event—shifting the focus from the trauma itself to the act of survival and ongoing resilience.
        • Relevance: Celebrating Unbreakable Day emphasises agency, gratitude, and shared joy, framing the experience as a source of community strength and positive memory, rather than a day of mourning or self-pity.
        • Examples: Marking the date of surviving a serious accident each year with affirmations, celebrations, and positive reflections (“the day I survived”, not “the day I was run over”).
        • Related Terms: Trauma Anniversary, Post-Traumatic Growth, Resilience, Milestone Celebrations. Common Misconceptions: Some may think Unbreakable Day is about trivialising or romanticising trauma, yet it’s fundamentally about meaningful redefinition and healing.
        • What is Energy Feeds Energy?
          • Definition: “Energy feeds energy” is a concept describing how the emotional and psychological energy an individual projects—whether positive or negative—can create a feedback loop, influencing both their own mindset and the behaviours or emotions of others around them.
          • Relevance: In the episode, this term explains the power of cultivating optimism and joy, even in adverse circumstances, to create momentum for recovery, social connection, and personal transformation.
          • Examples: Choosing positive, affirming language when discussing setbacks, which encourages supportive reactions and further optimism from family or colleagues. Noticing how a joyful attitude can inspire happier interactions in teams or families.
          • Related Terms: Emotional Contagion, Positive Feedback Loop, Social Support, Optimism. Common Misconceptions: It is not about enforcing constant positivity or ignoring hardship; the principle reflects the authentic mutual reinforcement of energy, not forced cheerfulness.
          • What is Radical Kindness to Self?
            • Definition: Radical kindness to self refers to the practice of extending increased patience, gentleness, and non-judgemental acceptance towards oneself, especially after trauma or during personal transformation.
            • Relevance: Raised several times in the episode, it is presented as a core element of genuine recovery and growth, empowering individuals to embrace change and imperfection without internal criticism or shame.
            • Examples: Allowing oneself to grieve, to rest, or to have “bad days” without self-reproach. Giving oneself permission to not return to the “old normal” after a major life event, and refraining from harsh self-judgement about new limitations.
            • Related Terms: Self-Compassion, Mental Health Recovery, Mindfulness, Healing. Common Misconceptions: Radical self-kindness is sometimes misconstrued as self-indulgence or lack of ambition, when it actually enables long-term resilience, responsibility, and genuine improvement.
            • FAQ: Niche Concepts and Phrases from This Episode
              • What is Reframing? Reframing means consciously choosing to view personal or traumatic events from a new, more empowering perspective, altering both one’s narrative and life outcomes.
              • What is Kintsugi? Kintsugi is the Japanese art of repairing broken pottery with precious metals, and metaphorically, it represents valuing and highlighting, rather than hiding, one’s life scars and transformative experiences.
              • What is an Unbreakable Day? Unbreakable Day marks the anniversary of surviving a trauma, reframed as a celebration of resilience and continued life, rather than a commemoration of suffering.
              • What is Energy Feeds Energy? This concept states that the nature of your psychological or emotional energy—positive or negative—directly influences your environment and relationships, setting up cycles of reciprocity.
              • What is Radical Kindness to Self? Radical kindness to self is the act of deliberately practising gentleness and acceptance towards oneself, recognising personal growth, survival, and change without harsh self-judgement.
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                Joanne Lockwood
                SEE Change Happen

                A huge thank you to our wonderful
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                Naseem Rochette

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