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What happens when the leader of a legacy beauty brand starts talking about more than skincare products? Joy, purpose, and profit.
In this final installment of Jenn Whitmer’s conversation with Helen Morrison of Frownies, the discussion expands beyond brand growth and social media into a deeper conversation about power, beauty standards, aging, visibility, leadership, and influence.
Helen shares how she sees Frownies as more than a skincare company. For her, the brand is an opportunity to challenge harmful beauty narratives, help women reclaim agency, and use influence responsibly. Rather than chasing profit alone, Helen is focused on building a company that leaves people better than it found them.
Jenn and Helen also explore what it means to lead with purpose, create from deep alignment, and stay visible in a culture that often encourages women to disappear as they age. This episode is a thoughtful listen for leaders, entrepreneurs, founders, creatives, and business owners who want to grow something meaningful without losing themselves in the process.
Leading with purpose means using your influence to challenge harmful norms, stay visible, and build something that creates real good beyond profit.
If you lead a business, a team, or a brand built on trust, this conversation offers a powerful example of what it looks like to grow with integrity. Helen Morrison shares honest insight on leadership, visibility, social media backlash, authentic marketing, customer loyalty, and scaling a business in the digital age.
About Helen Morrison
Helen Morrison is the fifth-generation CEO of Frownies, the iconic family-owned, women-led skincare brand founded in 1889. A great-great-granddaughter of founder Margaret Krosen, Helen has helped lead the brand into the modern era, blending legacy, storytelling, and customer connection with a sharp instinct for digital growth.
After joining Frownies full-time in 2020 as Director of Brand Strategy, she became the relatable face of the brand across social media, helping turn a long-trusted beauty secret into a viral modern phenomenon while staying rooted in the personal, high-touch care that built the company in the first place. Today, Helen is known for her honest, approachable voice, her ability to translate heritage into relevance, and her leadership in growing Frownies without losing the heart of what made it matter for generations.
Grab $10 off Frownies here! jennwhitmer.com/frownies
Helen’s Social:
Instagram: https:instagram.com/helenkmorrison/
TikTok: tiktok.com/@helenkmorrison
LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/helen-morrison-09469769
About the Host: Jenn Whitmer
Jenn is an international keynote speaker, leadership consultant, and the founder of Joyosity™, helping leaders create positive, profitable cultures through connection, curiosity, and joy. With a background in communication, conflict resolution, and team dynamics, Jenn helps leaders and organizations navigate complex people challenges, reduce burnout, and build flourishing workplaces.
Her insights have resonated with audiences worldwide, blending real-world leadership expertise, engaging storytelling, and a dash of humor to make the hard stuff easier. Whether on stage, in workshops, or with coaching clients, Jenn equips leaders with the tools they need to solve conflict, cultivate communication, and lead with purpose.
Her book Joyosity and the Joyosity Works Playbooks offer leaders a fresh approach to joy at work that builds real results.
jennwhitmer.com
Jenn's Social
Instagraminstagram.com/jenn_whitmer
Linkedinlinkedin.com/in/jennwhitmer
Podcast edited by Katey Perkins, Midsouth Story Co
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What happens when the leader of a legacy beauty brand starts talking about more than skincare products? Joy, purpose, and profit.
In this final installment of Jenn Whitmer’s conversation with Helen Morrison of Frownies, the discussion expands beyond brand growth and social media into a deeper conversation about power, beauty standards, aging, visibility, leadership, and influence.
Helen shares how she sees Frownies as more than a skincare company. For her, the brand is an opportunity to challenge harmful beauty narratives, help women reclaim agency, and use influence responsibly. Rather than chasing profit alone, Helen is focused on building a company that leaves people better than it found them.
Jenn and Helen also explore what it means to lead with purpose, create from deep alignment, and stay visible in a culture that often encourages women to disappear as they age. This episode is a thoughtful listen for leaders, entrepreneurs, founders, creatives, and business owners who want to grow something meaningful without losing themselves in the process.
Leading with purpose means using your influence to challenge harmful norms, stay visible, and build something that creates real good beyond profit.
If you lead a business, a team, or a brand built on trust, this conversation offers a powerful example of what it looks like to grow with integrity. Helen Morrison shares honest insight on leadership, visibility, social media backlash, authentic marketing, customer loyalty, and scaling a business in the digital age.
About Helen Morrison
Helen Morrison is the fifth-generation CEO of Frownies, the iconic family-owned, women-led skincare brand founded in 1889. A great-great-granddaughter of founder Margaret Krosen, Helen has helped lead the brand into the modern era, blending legacy, storytelling, and customer connection with a sharp instinct for digital growth.
After joining Frownies full-time in 2020 as Director of Brand Strategy, she became the relatable face of the brand across social media, helping turn a long-trusted beauty secret into a viral modern phenomenon while staying rooted in the personal, high-touch care that built the company in the first place. Today, Helen is known for her honest, approachable voice, her ability to translate heritage into relevance, and her leadership in growing Frownies without losing the heart of what made it matter for generations.
Grab $10 off Frownies here! jennwhitmer.com/frownies
Helen’s Socials:
Instagram: https:instagram.com/helenkmorrison/
TikTok: tiktok.com/@helenkmorrison
LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/helen-morrison-09469769
About the Host: Jenn Whitmer
Jenn is an international keynote speaker, leadership consultant, and the founder of Joyosity™, helping leaders create positive, profitable cultures through connection, curiosity, and joy. With a background in communication, conflict resolution, and team dynamics, Jenn helps leaders and organizations navigate complex people challenges, reduce burnout, and build flourishing workplaces.
Her insights have resonated with audiences worldwide, blending real-world leadership expertise, engaging storytelling, and a dash of humor to make the hard stuff easier. Whether on stage, in workshops, or with coaching clients, Jenn equips leaders with the tools they need to solve conflict, cultivate communication, and lead with purpose.
Her book Joyosity and the Joyosity Works Playbooks offer leaders a fresh approach to joy at work that builds real results.
jennwhitmer.com
Jenn's Socials:
Instagraminstagram.com/jenn_whitmer
Linkedinlinkedin.com/in/jennwhitmer
Podcast edited by Katey Perkins, Midsouth Story Co
Ready to stop over-functioning and start leading with more clarity, intention, and joy?
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How do you lead a 100-year-old family brand when TikTok suddenly turns it into a viral sensation? Helen Morrison of Frownies shares what it takes to navigate legacy, leadership, criticism, and customer trust while growing fast in public.
In this episode of the Joyosity™ Podcast, Jenn Whitmer talks with Jacqueline Kerr about how workplace change actually happens—inside teams, organizations, and systems.
They explore why people often do not respond to new ideas, not because change is bad or hard, but because those ideas do not match their current priorities, pressures, incentives, or mental filters. Jacqueline shares how leaders can create the enabling conditions for change by starting small, reducing friction, building trust, and demonstrating results instead of forcing buy-in.
This episode is especially helpful for leaders, managers, culture builders, HR professionals, and change agents who want to improve team habits, workplace culture, employee engagement, burnout prevention, leadership communication, and organizational change adoption.
If you have ever wondered, "Why won’t they just do the obvious, better thing?", this conversation will help you understand resistance to change, behavior change at work, and how to build momentum without unnecessary frustration.
Growing a legacy brand in public takes more than smart marketing — it takes human-centered leadership, trust, and the courage to stay authentic under pressure.
If you lead a business, a team, or a brand built on trust, this conversation offers a powerful example of what it looks like to grow with integrity. Helen Morrison shares honest insight on leadership, visibility, social media backlash, authentic marketing, customer loyalty, and scaling a family business in the digital age.
Whether you’re navigating brand growth, online criticism, legacy business challenges, or modern leadership, this episode will leave you thinking differently about what it means to stay grounded while growing in public.
Jenn Whitmer talks with Helen Morrison of Frownies about leading a legacy family business through viral growth, building trust on social media, handling online criticism, and staying authentic as the public face of a modern brand. This episode is packed with insight for entrepreneurs, founders, and business leaders growing a company in the digital age.
About Helen Morrison
Helen Morrison is the fifth-generation CEO of Frownies, the iconic family-owned, women-led skincare brand founded in 1889. A great-great-granddaughter of founder Margaret Krosen, Helen has helped lead the brand into the modern era, blending legacy, storytelling, and customer connection with a sharp instinct for digital growth.
After joining Frownies full-time in 2020 as Director of Brand Strategy, she became the relatable face of the brand across social media, helping turn a long-trusted beauty secret into a viral modern phenomenon while staying rooted in the personal, high-touch care that built the company in the first place. Today, Helen is known for her honest, approachable voice, her ability to translate heritage into relevance, and her leadership in growing Frownies without losing the heart of what made it matter for generations.
Grab $10 off Frownies here! jennwhitmer.com/frownies
Helen’s Socials:
Instagram: https:instagram.com/helenkmorrison/
TikTok: tiktok.com/@helenkmorrison
LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/helen-morrison-09469769
About the Host: Jenn Whitmer
Jenn is an international keynote speaker, leadership consultant, and the founder of Joyosity™, helping leaders create positive, profitable cultures through connection, curiosity, and joy. With a background in communication, conflict resolution, and team dynamics, Jenn helps leaders and organizations navigate complex people challenges, reduce burnout, and build flourishing workplaces.
Her insights have resonated with audiences worldwide, blending real-world leadership expertise, engaging storytelling, and a dash of humor to make the hard stuff easier. Whether on stage, in workshops, or with coaching clients, Jenn equips leaders with the tools they need to solve conflict, cultivate communication, and lead with purpose.
Her book Joyosity and the Joyosity Works Playbooks offer leaders a fresh approach to joy at work that builds real results.
jennwhitmer.com
Jenn's Socials:
Instagraminstagram.com/jenn_whitmer
Linkedinlinkedin.com/in/jennwhitmer
Podcast edited by Katey Perkins, Midsouth Story Co
Ready to stop over-functioning and start leading with more clarity, intention, and joy?
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What if people are not resisting change because they are stubborn… but because their brains literally cannot see the change as relevant yet?
In this episode of the Joyosity™ Podcast, Jenn Whitmer talks with Jacqueline Kerr about how workplace change actually happens—inside teams, organizations, and systems.
They explore why people often do not respond to new ideas, not because change is bad or hard, but because those ideas do not match their current priorities, pressures, incentives, or mental filters. Jacqueline shares how leaders can create the enabling conditions for change by starting small, reducing friction, building trust, and demonstrating results instead of forcing buy-in.
This episode is especially helpful for leaders, managers, culture builders, HR professionals, and change agents who want to improve team habits, workplace culture, employee engagement, burnout prevention, leadership communication, and organizational change adoption.
If you have ever wondered, "Why won’t they just do the obvious, better thing?", this conversation will help you understand resistance to change, behavior change at work, and how to build momentum without unnecessary frustration.
Real change happens when leaders make new behaviors easier, safer, and more relevant to people’s real priorities instead of just asking them to buy in.
About Dr. Jacqueline Kerr
Dr. Kerr is a behavior change expert, keynote speaker, grant-writing strategist, and former public health professor who helps leaders create meaningful change without burning out in the process. A former UC San Diego professor and internationally recognized researcher, she has secured more than $56 million in grant funding, published more than 220 scholarly works, and was named among the world’s most influential scientific minds.
Today, through her work as CEO of The Grant Doctor and Head of Behavior Science at The Huuman Group, Jacqueline combines science, strategy, and real-world leadership experience to help organizations improve burnout prevention, behavior change, and long-term impact. Her work spans academia, healthcare, corporate leadership, and community advocacy, all driven by a clear mission: empowering leaders to keep changing the world.
drjacquelinekerr.com/leading-real-change.com/
Dr. Kerr’s Social:
LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/dr-jacqueline-kerr-a62581173/
About the Host: Jenn Whitmer
Jenn is an international keynote speaker, leadership consultant, and the founder of Joyosity™, helping leaders create positive, profitable cultures through connection, curiosity, and joy. With a background in communication, conflict resolution, and team dynamics, Jenn helps leaders and organizations navigate complex people challenges, reduce burnout, and build flourishing workplaces.
Her insights have resonated with audiences worldwide, blending real-world leadership expertise, engaging storytelling, and a dash of humor to make the hard stuff easier. Whether on stage, in workshops, or with coaching clients, Jenn equips leaders with the tools they need to solve conflict, cultivate communication, and lead with purpose.
Her book Joyosity and the Joyosity Works Playbooks offer leaders a fresh approach to joy at work that builds real results.
jennwhitmer.com
Jenn's Socials:
Instagraminstagram.com/jenn_whitmer
Linkedinlinkedin.com/in/jennwhitmer
Podcast edited by Katey Perkins, Midsouth Story Co
Ready to stop over-functioning and start leading with more clarity, intention, and joy?
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What if great leadership is not about chasing work-life balance, but about building clear expectations, honest communication, and a culture where people can be fully human?
In Part 2 of this conversation, Jenn Whitmer continues her interview with hospitality leader Carrie Campbell to explore what leadership really looks like after a culture vision has been defined.
In high-pressure, always-on environments, leadership can easily drift toward burnout, unclear expectations, and unspoken resentment. Carrie challenges the idea of work-life balance and instead offers a more sustainable model: work-life integration. Through clear communication, healthy boundaries, consistent coaching, and shared responsibility, leaders can build teams that are both high-performing and deeply human.
Jenn and Carrie talk about how to coach people who are always on, how to address conflict before it grows, how to create team norms that make expectations visible, and how to say no without damaging trust. This episode is packed with practical leadership insights for anyone who wants to build trust, prevent burnout, reduce resentment, and lead with greater clarity, courage, and care.
Healthy leadership is not about being available all the time. It is about creating the kind of clarity, trust, boundaries, and communication that allows people to do great work without losing themselves in the process.
If you are leading in a fast-paced, high-pressure environment and want to build a healthier, more sustainable team culture, this episode offers practical wisdom you can use right away. Jenn Whitmer and Carrie Campbell explore how clear expectations, honest communication, strong boundaries, and intentional coaching can help leaders reduce burnout, build trust, and create teams that are both human and high-performing. You’ll walk away with helpful insight on work-life integration, conflict, team norms, and how to lead with more clarity and courage.
About Carrie Campbell
Carrie is Senior Vice President of Evergreen, formerly Fenway Park Events, at the Boston Red Sox, where she leads year-round marketing, sales, and event execution. With more than 30 years in hospitality and tourism, she has helped transform Fenway Park into one of New England’s premier event venues. Known for building strong teams and people-first cultures, Carrie is also a recognized industry leader, board member, and advocate for the meetings and events world.
evergreenfenway.com/
Carrie’s Socials:
Instagram: instagram.com/carrieonculture/
LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/carrie-campbell29/
About the Host: Jenn Whitmer
Jenn is an international keynote speaker, leadership consultant, and the founder of Joyosity™, helping leaders create positive, profitable cultures through connection, curiosity, and joy. With a background in communication, conflict resolution, and team dynamics, Jenn helps leaders and organizations navigate complex people challenges, reduce burnout, and build flourishing workplaces.
Her insights have resonated with audiences worldwide, blending real-world leadership expertise, engaging storytelling, and a dash of humor to make the hard stuff easier. Whether on stage, in workshops, or with coaching clients, Jenn equips leaders with the tools they need to solve conflict, cultivate communication, and lead with purpose.
Her book Joyosity and the Joyosity Works Playbooks offer leaders a fresh approach to joy at work that builds real results.
jennwhitmer.com
Jenn's Socials:
Instagraminstagram.com/jenn_whitmer
Linkedinlinkedin.com/in/jennwhitmer
Podcast edited by Katey Perkins, Midsouth Story Co
Ready to stop over-functioning and start leading with more clarity, intention, and joy?
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Policy may keep things running, but empowered people are what make culture, trust, and exceptional experiences possible.
What if the best leadership isn’t about enforcing rules, but about creating a culture where people feel empowered to think, care, and act with intention?
In this episode of the Joyosity™ Podcast, Jenn Whitmer sits down with Carrie Campbell, a hospitality leader with deep experience in luxury hotels, team culture, employee engagement, and high-pressure service environments. Carrie shares how her leadership philosophy was shaped by both toxic workplace experiences and the intense demands of the hospitality industry.
Together, Jenn and Carrie explore what it takes to create a healthy workplace culture in fast-paced organizations where burnout, transactional leadership, and unclear expectations can quickly take over. They unpack how strong leaders move beyond policy and checklists to build clarity, trust, shared language, team norms, and people-first accountability.
This conversation is packed with practical insight for anyone leading through culture change, workplace burnout, employee experience, customer service, team development, or leadership transformation.
Policies may keep operations moving, but empowered people are what create trust, connection, and exceptional experiences.
This episode is for you if you are:
What does great leadership actually look like in high-pressure workplaces? In this episode of the Joyosity™ Podcast, Jenn Whitmer talks with hospitality leader Carrie Campbell about building healthy workplace culture, empowering employees, preventing burnout, and leading people with clarity instead of hiding behind policy. This conversation is full of practical leadership insights for anyone focused on team development, culture change, customer experience, and people-first leadership.
About Carrie Campbell
Carrie is Senior Vice President of Evergreen, formerly Fenway Park Events, at the Boston Red Sox, where she leads year-round marketing, sales, and event execution. With more than 30 years in hospitality and tourism, she has helped transform Fenway Park into one of New England’s premier event venues. Known for building strong teams and people-first cultures, Carrie is also a recognized industry leader, board member, and advocate for the meetings and events world.
evergreenfenway.com/
Carrie’s Social:
Instagram: instagram.com/carrieonculture/
LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/carrie-campbell29/
About the Host: Jenn Whitmer
Jenn is an international keynote speaker, leadership consultant, and the founder of Joyosity™, helping leaders create positive, profitable cultures through connection, curiosity, and joy. With a background in communication, conflict resolution, and team dynamics, Jenn helps leaders and organizations navigate complex people challenges, reduce burnout, and build flourishing workplaces.
Her insights have resonated with audiences worldwide, blending real-world leadership expertise, engaging storytelling, and a dash of humor to make the hard stuff easier. Whether on stage, in workshops, or with coaching clients, Jenn equips leaders with the tools they need to solve conflict, cultivate communication, and lead with purpose.
Her book Joyosity and the Joyosity Works Playbooks offer leaders a fresh approach to joy at work that builds real results.
jennwhitmer.com
Jenn's Social
Instagram: Instagraminstagram.com/jenn_whitmer
LinkedIn: Linkedinlinkedin.com/in/jennwhitmer
Podcast edited by Katey Perkins, Midsouth Story Co
Ready to stop over-functioning and start leading with more clarity, intention, and joy?
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How do you find joy at work without faking positivity or losing yourself in the process?
In this episode of the Joyosity™ Podcast, Jenn Whitmer talks with performer, teacher, and creator Tara DeFrancisco about joy at work, authenticity, leadership, creativity, trust, and self-judgment. Together, they explore how to be fully yourself at work, why presence matters, and how authenticity helps people connect more deeply in leadership, performance, and everyday life.
Tara shares insights on bringing your full self to work, letting go of the need to perform for your inner critic, and learning how to enjoy the work you have already earned. Jenn and Tara also discuss improv, emotional connection, workplace joy, online identity, and what it means to lead with truth instead of control.
This episode is for anyone who wants more joy in work and life without forcing positivity. If you are a leader, creative, speaker, performer, or professional trying to stay grounded, authentic, and connected, this conversation offers practical wisdom and a refreshing perspective on authentic leadership and meaningful work.
Joy at work grows when you stop performing for your inner evaluator and become present enough to enjoy the work you have already done.
About Tara DeFrancisco
Tara is a globally respected improviser, educator, speaker, and comedic performer known for her powerful blend of humor, connection, and authenticity. She has performed more than 8,000 shows on renowned stages, including iO Chicago, The Second City, and ComedySportz, and is especially known for HERE: The (Improvised) Musical, her acclaimed two-person show performed in 24 countries and more than 90 cities.
Tara is also the Co-Founder and Artistic Director of The Nest Theatre in Columbus, Ohio, and a sought-after teacher whose work has taken her around the world. Most recently, she began serving as a facilitator and artistic liaison for Cirque du Soleil. Through speaking, teaching, and performance, Tara helps people and organizations unlock more play, presence, trust, and connection.
taradefrancisco.com/
Tara’s Socials:
Instagram: instagram.com/taradefrancisco
TikTok: tiktok.com/@taradefrancisco
About the Host: Jenn Whitmer
Jenn is an international keynote speaker, leadership consultant, and the founder of Joyosity™, helping leaders create positive, profitable cultures through connection, curiosity, and joy. With a background in communication, conflict resolution, and team dynamics, Jenn helps leaders and organizations navigate complex people challenges, reduce burnout, and build flourishing workplaces.
Her insights have resonated with audiences worldwide, blending real-world leadership expertise, engaging storytelling, and a dash of humor to make the hard stuff easier. Whether on stage, in workshops, or with coaching clients, Jenn equips leaders with the tools they need to solve conflict, cultivate communication, and lead with purpose.
Her book Joyosity and the Joyosity Works Playbooks offer leaders a fresh approach to joy at work that builds real results.
jennwhitmer.com
Jenn's Socials:
Instagram: Instagraminstagram.com/jenn_whitmer
LinkedIn: Linkedinlinkedin.com/in/jennwhitmer
Podcast edited by Katey Perkins, Midsouth Story Co
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Sometimes joy looks like making the non-obvious choice.
In this solo episode of the Joyosity™ Podcast, Jenn Whitmer kicks off a new series: The Courage to Do It Differently: Joy Makes Work…Work.
Too many leaders are still operating inside systems that reward burnout, confusion, performative productivity, and polished dysfunction. But work does not have to stay that way. Joy is not naive, weak, or a nice-to-have. It is a courageous, strategic way of building work that actually works.
Jenn invites listeners to reflect on three powerful questions about their leadership right now. If work has started to feel heavy, performative, or disconnected, this episode will help you name what is no longer working and identify one brave next step toward greater clarity, humanity, and joy.
A leadership podcast for people leaders navigating burnout prevention, workplace joy, sustainable culture change, and courageous decision-making.
Joy at work is not a soft extra. It is a brave, strategic choice that helps leaders build healthier teams, clearer cultures, and more sustainable ways of working.
About the Host: Jenn Whitmer
Jenn is an international keynote speaker, leadership consultant, and the founder of Joyosity™, helping leaders create positive, profitable cultures through connection, curiosity, and joy. With a background in communication, conflict resolution, and team dynamics, Jenn helps leaders and organizations navigate complex people challenges, reduce burnout, and build flourishing workplaces.
Her insights have resonated with audiences worldwide, blending real-world leadership expertise, engaging storytelling, and a dash of humor to make the hard stuff easier. Whether on stage, in workshops, or with coaching clients, Jenn equips leaders with the tools they need to solve conflict, cultivate communication, and lead with purpose.
Her book Joyosity and the Joyosity Works Playbooks offer leaders a fresh approach to joy at work that builds real results.
jennwhitmer.com
Jenn's Socials:
Insta: Instagraminstagram.com/jenn_whitmer
LinkedIn: Linkedinlinkedin.com/in/jennwhitmer
Ready to stop over-functioning and start leading with more clarity, intention, and joy?
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Somewhere between the feedback, the frustration, and the fifth Slack ping, most leaders stop being intentional.
In this episode of the Joyosity™ Podcast, Jenn Whitmer is back with Michael Whitmer for part two of this ICYMI conversation, pulling together the most practical leadership lessons from the Joyosity in Practice series. This one is all about the “now what?”—how leaders stay human in the everyday moments that quietly shape trust, culture, and performance. Together, Jenn and Michael talk through what it looks like to practice joy in real time: tracking what’s working, listening better, lowering the pressure of perfection, giving feedback that actually helps, and using small pauses to lead with more intention.
Jenn and Michael make the case that leadership does not rise or fall in big public moments nearly as much as it does in small private ones. The real work happens in the pause before you reply, the way you frame feedback, the questions you ask when something is unclear, and whether you choose curiosity instead of control. Joyosity is not about pretending things are fine. It is about building the kind of rooted, resilient leadership that helps people feel connected, effective, and human.
The leaders who stay human under pressure are not waiting for perfect conditions—they are practicing small, intentional choices that create trust, clarity, and joy in real time. About the Guest: Michael Whitmer Michael Whitmer works at the intersection of leadership, team culture, brand elevation, crisis communications, and values-based marketing. He serves as Vice President at Look East, a values-based communication agency. He develops integrated marketing communications strategies that strengthen trust and deliver measurable results. With more than 20 years of experience in food and agribusiness, he brings leadership, strategic thinking and ingenuity to every project. He brings a thoughtful lens to belonging, trust, and purposeful leadership. Connect with Michael on LinkedIn at linkedin.com/in/michaelawhitmer/ About the Host: Jenn Whitmer Jenn is an international keynote speaker, leadership consultant, and the founder of Joyosity™, helping leaders create positive, profitable cultures through connection, curiosity, and joy. With a background in communication, conflict resolution, and team dynamics, Jenn helps leaders and organizations navigate complex people challenges, reduce burnout, and build flourishing workplaces. Her insights have resonated with audiences worldwide, blending real-world leadership expertise, engaging storytelling, and a dash of humor to make the hard stuff easier. Whether on stage, in workshops, or with coaching clients, Jenn equips leaders with the tools they need to solve conflict, cultivate communication, and lead with purpose. Her book Joyosity and the Joyosity Works Playbooks offer leaders a fresh approach to joy at work that builds real results. jennwhitmer.com Jenn's Social
The Joyosity In Practice series: Ep 124 Joy as Resistance: How Leaders Stay Human When Pressure Is High with Jenn Whitmer Ep 125 Staying Human When the Stakes Are High: When Good Becomes Radical with Heather A. Campbell Ep 126 When Resistance is a Timing Signal with Ipek Gray Ep 127 Creativity Isn’t a Luxury Skill—It’s a Leadership Requirement with Melissa Dinwiddie Ep 128 Balancing Strategy and Fire Drills: A Playbook for Senior Leaders with Harry Cook IV Ep 129 Managing People Is the Hard Part with Karen Ansen Ep 130 Why Collaboration Breaks Down and How Leaders Can Fix It with Catherine Casalino Ep 131 Staying Calm When the World Is on Fire: Leadership, Emotions, and Real Control with Ken Miller Ep 132 Stop Chasing Noise. How to Lead with Clarity with Rohit Bhargava Ep 133 Joyosity in Practice: ICYMI pt. 2 with Michael Whitmer Ep 134 Joyosity in Practice: ICYMI pt 2 with Michael Whitmer Michael's resource for you: Lights, Camera...Nail It! 5 Keys to Mastering Your Public Presence No matter where you show up as a spokesperson—media interview, keynote, panel discussion, public testimony, podcast, or just your weekly 1:1—you have something valuable to say. The way you share your expertise impacts your reputation and that of your organization, and determines how messages are received by your audiences. Get your copy here. Get Joyosity and the Joyosity Works Playbook
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What do leaders do when they know better… and still spiral anyway?
In this ICYMI episode of the Joyosity™ Podcast, Jenn Whitmer is joined by Michael Whitmer for a candid debrief on the Joyosity in Practice: How Leaders Stay Human When It Matters Most series. After Jenn shares a painfully relatable SXSW moment of self-doubt, she and Michael unpack what stood out from the season’s guests: conflict avoidance, feedback, pressure, creativity, self-awareness, and the leadership habits that help people stay grounded when things get hard.
This conversation is part reflection, part leadership audit. If you’ve ever rushed past discomfort, avoided a hard conversation, taken feedback too personally, or forgotten that being human is not a leadership flaw, this episode will feel like a reset. Jenn and Michael connect the dots from the full series and pull out the ideas leaders most need to hear again—because repetition is a mercy, and leadership is not a position. It’s a practice.
This episode is a reminder that joy is not denial, polish, or pretending. It is a practice of staying connected to yourself and other people so you can lead with more clarity, courage, and humanity.
Leadership does not break in one big moment—it is built or betrayed in the small, human choices you make under pressure.
About the Guest: Michael Whitmer Michael Whitmer works at the intersection of leadership, team culture, brand elevation, crisis communications, and values-based marketing. He serves as Vice President at Look East, a values-based communication agency. He develops integrated marketing communications strategies that strengthen trust and deliver measurable results. With more than 20 years of experience in food and agribusiness, he brings leadership, strategic thinking and ingenuity to every project.
He brings a thoughtful lens to belonging, trust, and purposeful leadership. Connect with Michael on LinkedIn at linkedin.com/in/michaelawhitmer/
About the Host: Jenn Whitmer Jenn is an international keynote speaker, leadership consultant, and the founder of Joyosity™, helping leaders create positive, profitable cultures through connection, curiosity, and joy. With a background in communication, conflict resolution, and team dynamics, Jenn helps leaders and organizations navigate complex people challenges, reduce burnout, and build flourishing workplaces. Her insights have resonated with audiences worldwide, blending real-world leadership expertise, engaging storytelling, and a dash of humor to make the hard stuff easier. Whether on stage, in workshops, or with coaching clients, Jenn equips leaders with the tools they need to solve conflict, cultivate communication, and lead with purpose. Her book Joyosity and the Joyosity Works Playbooks offer leaders a fresh approach to joy at work that builds real results. jennwhitmer.com
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The Joyosity In Practice series: Ep 124 Joy as Resistance: How Leaders Stay Human When Pressure Is High with Jenn Whitmer Ep 125 Staying Human When the Stakes Are High: When Good Becomes Radical with Heather A. Campbell Ep 126 When Resistance is a Timing Signal with Ipek Gray Ep 127 Creativity Isn’t a Luxury Skill—It’s a Leadership Requirement with Melissa Dinwiddie Ep 128 Balancing Strategy and Fire Drills: A Playbook for Senior Leaders with Harry Cook IV Ep 129 Managing People Is the Hard Part with Karen Ansen Ep 130 Why Collaboration Breaks Down and How Leaders Can Fix It with Catherine Casalino Ep 131 Staying Calm When the World Is on Fire: Leadership, Emotions, and Real Control with Ken Miller Ep 132 Stop Chasing Noise. How to Lead with Clarity with Rohit Bhargava Ep 133 Joyosity in Practice: ICYMI pt. 2 with Michael Whitmer Ep 134 Joyosity in Practice: ICYMI pt 2 with Michael Whitmer
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