On today's episode—our final interview of 2020—Mason talks to fine art photographer JP Ryan about pursuing photography at a state school, making art where you grew up, and what it's like being trained at the end of the film photography era.

Check out JP's work and give him a follow.

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Meaning What is a product of it's no sam studios Created, produced, and edited by Mason Hershenow Additional production by Sean Ang

Theme music "January: Brief" by Mason Hershenow