This is a conversation I had with J.R. Briggs who is not all that obscure, but has a heart for those of us who are. He has written some books, helps plant churches, and is the founder of Kairos Partnerships

He also Began the Hall of Tyrannus Initiative  and you can find out about that here 

He also cohosts the Monday Morning Pastor podcast 

You can find him on Twitter @jr_briggs