This episode of Justice Speaks continues the series of interviews with individuals who impact the justice system by supervising individuals under community supervision in the form of probation or parole. This episode is sponsored by OpAns.

In this episode, we speak with the Honorable Judge Nancy Butts, who has served with distinction on the Court of Common Pleas in Pennsylvania for nearly three decades. Her leadership in the development and expansion of treatment courts has helped shape a more effective justice system both within her jurisdiction and nationally.

Judge Butts begins by reflecting on her personal and professional journey. Initially aspiring to become a physician, she discovered along the way that her true passion was public service through the law. “I realized that what drew me to medicine—the opportunity to help people—was also at the heart of the justice system,” she explains. After completing degrees in psychology and theater, with a minor in German, she pursued paralegal training and ultimately attended California Western School of Law.

Her legal career began in public defense before she served as a law clerk and assistant district attorney. In 1995, she was elected to the bench. I’ve always believed that justice must be accessible and responsive to the individuals who stand before us, Judge Butts notes. That philosophy would guide her transformative work in problem-solving courts.

In 1998, she launched one of Pennsylvania’s earliest drug courts, a pioneering effort during a time when there were few national models or best practices to follow. There was no roadmap, we had to build everything from the ground up, she recalls. In 2004, she expanded this work by starting a juvenile drug court, a DWI drug court, then a mental health court and later supported the development of a veteran’s treatment court. These courts, she explains, are not about excusing conduct, but about addressing its root causes.

Judge Butts describes her extensive experience across a variety of dockets, including DUI, juvenile, mental health, and general criminal cases. Managing these complex responsibilities required both institutional leadership and personal resilience. I was fortunate to have a supportive team that ensured I could perform my duties while maintaining balance, she says.

Judge Butts tells about her view of the inherent challenges and extraordinary benefits of treatment courts. She emphasizes the necessity of trauma-informed care, active listening, and compassion. She say we must see the individual, not just the file. She advocates for expanding the role of certified recovery specialists and peer mentors within the treatment court framework, and while acknowledging the utility of technology, she underscores the irreplaceable value of face-to-face human interaction.

The greatest professional achievement of my career, Judge Butts reflects, has been creating a courtroom environment where individuals feel safe enough to believe in their own capacity for change. She adds that one of her core principles is to focus on the future, not merely adjudicate the past.

Judge Butts also speaks about the need for systems-level change. She urges a reconceptualization of recidivism, not simply as rearrest, but as a measure of long-term stability, wellness, and engagement with pro-social support systems. She advocates for the broader integration of treatment courts into statewide bail and sentencing strategies, calling them not an alternative, but a fundamental element of justice reform.

Her involvement in the national treatment court movement began at a 1998 conference in Miami. Though she stepped away for a period, she returned when asked to serve as President of a leading national organization. She points out that this work has made her a better judge, a better citizen, and a better human being. It has taught her to listen deeply, act deliberately, and never lose sight of the human being behind the case.

Finally, the episode explores probation’s role in the broader landscape of criminal justice reform. While acknowledging that parts of the system must evolve, Judge Butts defends the value of probation when it is done well, embracing community partnerships, accountability, and individualized support.

We wish to thank Judge Nancy Butts for sharing her insights and experiences on Justice Speaks. We also wish to thank OpAns for sponsoring this podcast episode.

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