James and Michael chat with authors Jennifer Ziegler and Chris Barton. After a lovely discussion about publishing books for young readers, things get heated. Michael gets quite testy after an exacting round of Michael vs. the Experts. Then, tempers flare as James recounts the awful story of Michael’s unjust accusations. Do not miss this episode!

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Name of Guests: Jennifer Zeigler and Chris Barton

Beer: New Belgium Juicy Haze IPA

Links: 

https://jenniferziegler.net

https://chrisbarton.info