On this episode, Julia and Caroline join Bibi and Sarah for a witty, truthful and thought-provoking conversation that takes us through their lives, journeys, work and the life-altering decisions they've made to get them where they are today.

These two proudly Chinese-Canadian women lead with purpose and bring a breath of fresh air to every situation while remaining funny and extremely conversational. This is evident in spades in the incredible podcast they host together, the Not Nice Podcast.

The episode covers a wide range of subjects from racism to bowel-movements, and you're just going to have to listen to find out how on earth we were able to cover so much ground!

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