Artists and illustrators Julia Rothman & Jon Burgerman talk to host Tina Essmaker about knowing your value as an artist, the art of negotiating with clients, and interjecting play into our work routines.

Artists and illustrators Julia Rothman &amp; Jon Burgerman talk to host Tina Essmaker about knowing your value as an artist, the art of negotiating with clients, and interjecting play into our work routines.

Julia Rothman & Jon Burgerman — Knowing your value, the dance of negotiation, and interjecting play into our work

Long-form interviews for your ears, The Great Discontent podcast features in-depth conversations with today's artists, makers, and risk-takers.

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Julia Rothman & Jon Burgerman — Knowing your value, the dance of negotiation, and interjecting play into our work

Julia Rothman & Jon Burgerman — Knowing your value, the dance of negotiation, and interjecting play into our work