<p>I get to chat with Juliana Moreno-Patel and Ariel Ruben from The Wild Optimists.</p> <ul> <li>We talk about puzzle design vs game design</li> <li>Signing with mass market companies</li> <li>and working with complex components in manufacturing</li> </ul>

I get to chat with Juliana Moreno-Patel and Ariel Ruben from The Wild Optimists. We talk about puzzle design vs game design Signing with mass market companies and working with complex components in manufacturing

Juliana Moreno-Patel and Ariel Ruben

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Juliana Moreno-Patel and Ariel Ruben

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