I started running around as older adults do when I was a teenager, and we got caught one night, and we had an open container; I was only fourteen years old and I got judged as an adult, and I had to sit in jail.

They wouldn't let me out of jail for seven days. It hurt me, and that's where, I believe... that was the turning point where I wanted to get even with society. I wanted to get even; I wanted to rebel against any kind of authority or law.