Oliver's dear friend Lewis drops by to share their opinions on a recent art show Oliver was part of. They chat about how they met, making emotionally charged sculptures and the relationship between art and black holes (yes, there is one). Enjoy!

Quotes and stats in this episode come from these books:

Seven Logics of Sculpture by Ernst Van Alphen (Valiz, 2023)

Your Brain On Art by Susan Magsamen and Ivy Ross (Canongate, 2023)

How Not To Kill Yourself by Clancy Martin (Oneworld Publications, 2023)

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