<p>The Rev. June Joplin recently came out to her congregation she was pastoring as a transgender woman. The congregation voted to terminate her contract citing "theological differences." Today she sits down with the Rev. Rob Lee to talk about how she learned to love and helps us in learning the right tools to be an ally to those in the transgender community. </p>

The Rev. June Joplin recently came out to her congregation she was pastoring as a transgender woman. The congregation voted to terminate her contract citing "theological differences." Today she sits down with the Rev. Rob Lee to talk about how she learned to love and helps us in learning the right tools to be an ally to those in the transgender community.

<p>The Rev. June Joplin recently came out to her congregation she was pastoring as a transgender woman. The congregation voted to terminate her contract citing "theological differences." Today she sits down with the Rev. Rob Lee to talk about how she learned to love and helps us in learning the right tools to be an ally to those in the transgender community.&nbsp;</p>

June Joplin

What matters most to us in times of consequence? Is it wealth? Is it prestige and power? Is it likes or favorites? To me, what I hope to center is that friendship, family, empathy, compassion, quirkiness, humor, and hope will win out even amidst the fray of this transient and turbulent life. My name is Rob Lee, I’m a pastor, public theologian, and author working at the intersection of faith and public life. I want this podcast to be a place where I interview those people who are exemplifying what it means to exist with complete abandon in this life.

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June Joplin

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