Since you can't have a podcast without talking about ayahuasca, Cora decides to go to Ecuador for an ayahuasca retreat and gets the Tea on the A (ayahuasca). She first talks to her friend Michael Donovan (on at 14:36) to get a veterans advice, and then interviews Petteri Lamula (on at 26:30) who's done ayahuasca hundreds of times, been to over 50 shamans, and is holding the retreats in Ecuador. Thanks to Leland for the support since he's sworn to never do drugs that sound like parseltongue (snake language).