Just Between Coaches

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In the show’s finale, host Melinda Cohan distills four years and 163 episodes into three timeless coaching truths: curiosity, vulnerability, and community. While bidding a grateful goodbye, Melinda also discusses the challenge of perfectionism and the importance of presence over performance.

In this wrap-up, Melinda talks about:

• Three takeaways: curiosity, vulnerability, community
• The story of “Susie” and the power of a single question
• Radical self-trust inspired by singer-coach Michelle Kopper
• Owning the “hot mess” and redefining perfectionism
• The JV-summit moment that taught real-world marketing through compassion
• Her gratitude to listeners, guests, team, and Executive Producer Danny Iny
• Parting advice on presence over performance in every session

Host bio:

Melinda Cohan is the author of two books, with a third on the way, and the founder of The Coaches Console. Through her coaching and software, she removes the complexities of your business so you can build a business you love, attract ideal clients, and make a lasting impact. She was also host of the long-running Mirasee FM podcast Just Between Coaches.

Resources or websites mentioned in this episode:

Mirasee
Coaches Console
Melinda’s books: The Confident Coach and The Professional Coach

Credits:

Host: Melinda Cohan
Producer and Editor: Michi Lantz
Executive Producer: Danny Iny
Music Soundscape: Chad Michael Snavely
Making our hosts sound great: Home Brew Audio

To catch the great episodes that are coming up on Just Between Coaches, please follow us on Mirasee FM's YouTube channelor your favorite podcast player. And if you enjoyed the show, please leave us a comment or a starred review. It's the best way to help us get these ideas to more people.

Music credits:

Track Title: Clouds
Artist Name: Acreage
Writer Name: Marshall Usinger
Publisher Name: BOSS SOUNDSTRIPE PRODUCTIONS

Track Title: Coastline Dream
Artist Name: Wild Sky
Writer Name: Adam Simons
Publisher Name: BOSS SOUNDSTRIPE PRODUCTIONS

Track Title: Coo Coos
Artist Name: Dresden, The Flamingo
Writer Name: Matthew Wigton
Publisher Name: A SOUNDSTRIPE PRODUCTION

Track Title: Stars & Trees
Artist Name: Outside The Sky
Writer Name: Dustin Ransom
Publisher Name: A SOUNDSTRIPE PRODUCTION

Special effects credits:
24990513_birds-chirping_by_promission used with permission of the author and under license by AudioJungle/Envato Market.

Episode transcript: Are You Practicing Coaching’s Three Core Truths? (Show Finale) coming soon.

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Former Wall Street insider Ruchi Pinniger shows coaches how to ditch money shame and step into financial leadership. She unpacks cash-flow confusion, value-based pricing, and her three-pillar roadmap. Ruchi also explores mindset, spirituality, and wellbeing for profit, abundance, and lasting impact.

Ruchi Pinniger is the founder and CEO of Watch Her Prosper® and dedicated to providing financial mentorship, support, and services that women-led service-based businesses need to succeed.

In this episode, Melinda and Ruchi talk about:

• Demystifies cash flow versus profit for service-based coaches
• Reveals “bottoms-up” revenue planning to hit personal pay goals
• Shares mindset hack: recognize, interrupt, reframe money stories
• Connects pricing to client value, not self-worth
• Explains three pillars: mindset, spirituality, wellbeing
• Guides setup of tax and growth savings accounts
• Encourages love-based, detached enrollment conversations
• Illustrates financial breakthroughs with real client stories

Guest Bio:

Ruchi Pinniger, International Speaker, Venture Capital Investor, Founder and CEO of Watch Her Prosper®, is dedicated to providing financial mentorship, support, and services that women-led service-based businesses need to succeed. Ruchi takes a holistic approach to clients’ needs by providing financial guidance, bookkeeping, tax-time readiness, and heightening her clients’ prosperity mindset. Ruchi brings nearly 20 years of experience in the Wall Street and corporate world to the Watch Her Prosper® team and was recently named one of the “Women Leading the Finance Industry.” Watch Her Prosper® has helped thousands of business owners to identify their spiritual connection to wealth and learned beliefs about money, while viewing their prosperity in a new way. Clients can then break free from shame and guilt surrounding wealth and see huge results in their profitability and economic growth. Ruchi connects the business to the person, understanding that individuals running small businesses have personal financial goals.

As a global speaker, Ruchi has spoken at Princeton University, NYU, Luminary, and some of the world's most coveted stages about money and business related topics such as financial leadership, tax-readiness, budgeting, spirituality, and well-being surrounding personal and business finances. Ruchi is an Executive Board member for Savvy Ladies, an organization that helps women improve their financial literacy and take control of their money. She also serves on the board for the Pajama Program, a nonprofit organization helping children improve their quality of sleep so they can thrive. Ruchi is the proud recipient of the Entrepreneur Champions Award 2024, as she is passionate about helping all entrepreneurs to live their most prosperous lives. As a thought-leader and industry expert, Ruchi is regularly featured in GOBankingRates, Millie Magazine, Best Self Magazine, BBC, SiriusXM, and The Daily Refresh among others. While living in NYC, Ruchi enjoys taking time away from the city at her family's lakehouse. She values traveling with her loving husband and incredible teenage son. They are foodies and love to experience different world cultures together.

Resources or websites mentioned in this episode:

Mirasee
Coaches Console
Melinda’s books: The Confident Coach and The Professional Coach
Ruchi’s website: https://watchherprosper.com
Redefining Prosperity Workbook — https://watchherprosper.com

Credits:

Host: Melinda Cohan
Producer and Editor: Michi Lantz
Executive Producer: Danny Iny
Music Soundscape: Chad Michael Snavely
Making our hosts sound great: Home Brew Audio

To catch the great episodes that are coming up on Just Between Coaches, please follow us on Mirasee FM's YouTube channel or your favorite podcast player. And if you enjoyed the show, please leave us a comment or a starred review. It's the best way to help us get these ideas to more people.

Music credits:

Track Title: Clouds
Artist Name: Acreage
Writer Name: Marshall Usinger
Publisher Name: BOSS SOUNDSTRIPE PRODUCTIONS

Track Title: Coastline Dream
Artist Name: Wild Sky
Writer Name: Adam Simons
Publisher Name: BOSS SOUNDSTRIPE PRODUCTIONS

Track Title: Coo Coos
Artist Name: Dresden, The Flamingo
Writer Name: Matthew Wigton
Publisher Name: A SOUNDSTRIPE PRODUCTION

Track Title: Stars & Trees
Artist Name: Outside The Sky
Writer Name: Dustin Ransom
Publisher Name: A SOUNDSTRIPE PRODUCTION

Special effects credits:
24990513_birds-chirping_by_promission used with permission of the author and under license by AudioJungle/Envato Market.

Episode transcript: Financial Fluency: Cashflow Mastery for Coaches (Ruchi Pinniger) coming soon.

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This episode is soul triage for coaches. Dr. Heather Tucker offers grounded wisdom and a powerful invitation to rise above fear, guilt, and burnout. It’s part pep talk, part healing session—and essential for any coach who’s been quietly struggling behind the scenes.

Dr. Heather Tucker is a Business/Life Harmony Trainer and Coach. Through her company Another Level Living, Inc., she has certified more than 400 life coaches and 50 communication experts.

In this episode, Melinda and Dr. Heather talk about:

• How unhealed trauma and burnout show up in a coach’s business
• What it means to create “soul harmony” instead of just work-life balance
• How to model healing in front of your clients without falling apart
• The intersection of faith, purpose, and coaching in hard seasons
• Why your business doesn’t need you to be perfect—it needs you to be whole
• Why healing the past is key to leading in the present
• How to shift from “either/or” thinking to “both/and” resilience
• What guilt really does to your nervous system—and how to release it
• The energetic cost of not showing up fully (and how to stop hiding)
• How to navigate loss, PTSD, and unexpected seasons without giving up

Guest Bio:

Dr. Heather Tucker is a Business/Life Harmony Trainer and Coach. She uses unique approaches that empower you to improve your energy, mindset, emotional intelligence, and action plan to bring in more clients into your business, charge what you deserve, and create more freedom in your work, relationships, and all areas of life. Her company, Another Level Living, Inc is a professional training company that produces deep, powerful transformations for entrepreneurs worldwide who want to overcome great challenges and stand fully in your power, unshakable, so that you can master communication and relationships in both business and life with ease and grace.

After working with Dr. Heather, students find themselves working smarter, more present and in the flow, and are able to leap forward in their destiny and get results. Dr. Heather has certified more than 400 life coaches and 50 communication (mind) experts in her company.

She is the project manager and lead author of the international best-selling book series called The Power of Coaching. She's also the host of an online sensation for entrepreneurs called The Freedom Fridays Show.

Dr. Heather has more than 20 years of Information Technology expertise and higher education teaching experience. She received her PhD and Masters in Information Systems (Human-Computer Interaction) at age 27 from the University of Maryland Baltimore County. She also has a Bachelor of Science degree in Computer Science from the University of Maryland Eastern Shore. Dr. Heather's work has been published in many peer-reviewed journals, conference proceedings, and books.

Dr. Heather is also married to a Purple Heart Marine Corps Veteran and a mom to 3 young children.

Resources or websites mentioned in this episode:

Mirasee
Coaches Console
Melinda’s books: The Confident Coach and The Professional Coach
Dr. Heather’s website: AnotherLevelLiving.com

Credits:

Host: Melinda Cohan
Producer and Editor: Michi Lantz
Executive Producer: Danny Iny
Music Soundscape: Chad Michael Snavely
Making our hosts sound great: Home Brew Audio

To catch the great episodes that are coming up on Just Between Coaches, please follow us on Mirasee FM's YouTube channelor your favorite podcast player. And if you enjoyed the show, please leave us a comment or a starred review. It's the best way to help us get these ideas to more people.

Music credits:

Track Title: Clouds
Artist Name: Acreage
Writer Name: Marshall Usinger
Publisher Name: BOSS SOUNDSTRIPE PRODUCTIONS

Track Title: Coastline Dream
Artist Name: Wild Sky
Writer Name: Adam Simons
Publisher Name: BOSS SOUNDSTRIPE PRODUCTIONS

Track Title: Coo Coos
Artist Name: Dresden, The Flamingo
Writer Name: Matthew Wigton
Publisher Name: A SOUNDSTRIPE PRODUCTION

Track Title: Stars & Trees
Artist Name: Outside The Sky
Writer Name: Dustin Ransom
Publisher Name: A SOUNDSTRIPE PRODUCTION

Special effects credits:

24990513_birds-chirping_by_promission used with permission of the author and under license by AudioJungle/Envato Market.

Episode transcript: Stop Hiding the Hurt. Coaches Need Healing Too (Dr. Heather Tucker) coming soon.

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Nikki Rausch shares her proven methods for turning discovery calls into paying clients. Drawing on her 25+ years of experience, she discusses how to create trust, assess commitment levels, and avoid being pushy — offering coaches actionable steps for having authentic, productive sales conversations.

Nikki Rausch is the CEO of Sales Maven, trusted sales strategist, author, speaker, and host of the Sales Maven Podcast.

In this episode, Melinda and Nikki talk about:

• Creating safety in the first moments of a discovery call
• Pre-framing the conversation to set expectations
• Understanding commitment levels and how to gauge them
• The importance of avoiding “convincing mode” in sales
• How to build curiosity without being pushy
• Asking smart questions to uncover client needs
• The power of authentic, two-way sales conversations
• The five-step sales process (the “Selling Staircase”)
• Navigating objections with respect and integrity
• Closing the loop and following up effectively

Guest Bio:

CEO of Sales Maven, Nikki Rausch has the unique ability to transform the misunderstood process of “selling.” With 25+ years of experience selling to prestigious organizations like The Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation and NASA, Nikki shattered sales records and received “top producer” awards along the way.

Today, entrepreneurs and small business owners hire Nikki to show them how to sell successfully and authentically. An engaging speaker, she shares the secrets of her sales success through keynote speeches and business-changing workshops. Her robust Sales Maven Society ignites game-changing outcomes for clients.

Nikki has written three books, all available on Amazon. And she has a podcast called “Sales Maven,” which you can find on your favorite podcast platform.

Resources or websites mentioned in this episode:

Mirasee
Coaches Console
Melinda’s books: The Confident Coach and The Professional Coach
Nikki’s website: YourSalesMaven.com
Nikki’s Facebook Page: Sales Maven
Nikki’s Instagram Page: @your_sales_maven
Nikki’s LinkedIn Page: www.linkedin.com/in/nicolerausch
Free training for podcast listeners: Seal The Deal: Questions That Close Sales

Credits:

Host: Melinda Cohan
Producer and Editor: Michi Lantz
Executive Producer: Danny Iny
Music Soundscape: Chad Michael Snavely
Making our hosts sound great: Home Brew Audio

To catch the great episodes that are coming up on Just Between Coaches, please follow us on Mirasee FM's YouTube channelor your favorite podcast player. And if you enjoyed the show, please leave us a comment or a starred review. It's the best way to help us get these ideas to more people.

Music credits:

Track Title: Clouds
Artist Name: Acreage
Writer Name: Marshall Usinger
Publisher Name: BOSS SOUNDSTRIPE PRODUCTIONS

Track Title: Coastline Dream
Artist Name: Wild Sky
Writer Name: Adam Simons
Publisher Name: BOSS SOUNDSTRIPE PRODUCTIONS

Track Title: Coo Coos
Artist Name: Dresden, The Flamingo
Writer Name: Matthew Wigton
Publisher Name: A SOUNDSTRIPE PRODUCTION

Track Title: Stars & Trees
Artist Name: Outside The Sky
Writer Name: Dustin Ransom
Publisher Name: A SOUNDSTRIPE PRODUCTION

Special effects credits:
24990513_birds-chirping_by_promission used with permission of the author and under license by AudioJungle/Envato Market.

Episode transcript: Why Coaches Lose Clients—And How to Keep Them (Nikki Rausch) coming soon.

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Emmy award winner Kerry Barrett reveals how to transform camera-shyness into confidence. Drawing from her broadcast career, she uncovers why imperfection builds connection, explores the roots of public speaking fear, and offers actionable steps for authentic video presence.

Kerry Barrett an Emmy Award-winning network news anchor, PR coach, corporate media trainer and keynote speaker.

In this episode, Melinda and Kerry talk about:

• Overcoming the fear of public speaking and being on camera
• The psychological roots and physical manifestations of stage fright
• Kerry’s journey from fear to Emmy Award-winning news anchor and coach
• The differences and similarities between speaking on stage and on camera
• Exposure therapy and practical steps for building on-camera confidence
• Embracing imperfection to create authentic and relatable video content
• Strategies for increasing vocal variety, physical presence, and energy on camera
• Her MVP framework (Mindset, Vocal Variety, Physical Performance) for video success
• Common excuses and mental barriers coaches face regarding video, and ways to overcome them
• The importance of connecting with an audience of one and focusing on service over perfection

Guest Bio:

Kerry Barrett is the preeminent on-camera media, public speaking and video trainer for lawyers and executives. She teaches virtual & video presence and on-camera readiness for a broad spectrum of situations ranging from formal talks, video content & social media & media interviews to everyday sales pitches over Zoom.

As an Emmy Award-winning network news anchor who overcame a debilitating fear of public speaking, Kerry offers a unique perspective as someone who has 25 years of experience in front of the camera. Kerry’s specialty is teaching people how they can become relatable to their audiences and make that genuine connection. She offers a variety of keynotes, workshops and corporate trainings, digital programs, 1:1 and group coaching, VIP Days and intensives to help people feel confident, sincere and energetic, yet relaxed on-screen, create marketing and sales content, close more deals, create a more engaged workforce and prepare for media opportunities.

Resources or websites mentioned in this episode:

Mirasee
Coaches Console
Melinda’s books: The Confident Coach and The Professional Coach
Kerry’s website: KerryBarrett.com

Credits:

Host: Melinda Cohan
Producer and Editor: Michi Lantz
Executive Producer: Danny Iny
Music Soundscape: Chad Michael Snavely
Making our hosts sound great: Home Brew Audio

To catch the great episodes that are coming up on Just Between Coaches, please follow us on Mirasee FM's YouTube channelor your favorite podcast player. And if you enjoyed the show, please leave us a comment or a starred review. It's the best way to help us get these ideas to more people.

Music credits:

Track Title: Clouds
Artist Name: Acreage
Writer Name: Marshall Usinger
Publisher Name: BOSS SOUNDSTRIPE PRODUCTIONS

Track Title: Coastline Dream
Artist Name: Wild Sky
Writer Name: Adam Simons
Publisher Name: BOSS SOUNDSTRIPE PRODUCTIONS

Track Title: Coo Coos
Artist Name: Dresden, The Flamingo
Writer Name: Matthew Wigton
Publisher Name: A SOUNDSTRIPE PRODUCTION

Track Title: Stars & Trees
Artist Name: Outside The Sky
Writer Name: Dustin Ransom
Publisher Name: A SOUNDSTRIPE PRODUCTION

Special effects credits:

24990513_birds-chirping_by_promission used with permission of the author and under license by AudioJungle/Envato Market.

Episode transcript: Afraid of the Camera? That’s Not the Problem (Kerry Barrett).

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In this episode, Maegan Megginson explores the transformative power of sabbaticals, challenging the belief that they’re only for the ultra-successful. She shares how intentional rest can prevent burnout, foster self-discovery, and lead to sustainable business growth for purpose-driven entrepreneurs.

Maegan Megginson is a business mentor, licensed therapist, and the host of the podcast Deeply Rested.

In this episode, Melinda and Maegan talk about:

• The importance of intentional sabbaticals for business owners
• Differentiating between sabbaticals and vacations
• The impact of capitalism and internalized beliefs on entrepreneurs’ relationship to rest
• Practical strategies for planning and funding a sabbatical
• Integrating sabbatical experiences back into business and life
• Setting client expectations and restructuring business for flexibility
• Challenges and resistance business owners face when considering time off
• The value of community and support during a sabbatical
• The three essential phases of a sabbatical: preparation, the sabbatical itself, and post-sabbatical integration

Guest Bio:

Maegan Megginson is a Business Mentor and Licensed Therapist who helps entrepreneurs recover from burnout by creating more sustainable and energizing ways to work. Drawing on her experience as a healer and seven-figure business owner, Maegan's unique magic weaves together the practical and spiritual elements we need to create successful businesses and truly wealthy lives. She is the host of Deeply Rested, the podcast and newsletter that helps people doing good work in the world take good care of themselves. You can learn more about her work at DeeplyRested.com and subscribe to her newsletter at DeeplyRested.com/newsletter.

Resources or websites mentioned in this episode:

Mirasee
Coaches Console
Melinda’s books: The Confident Coach and The Professional Coach
Maegan’s website: DeeplyRested.com
Maegan’s Newsletter: DeeplyRested.com/newsletter
Maegan’s Podcast: Deeply Rested

Credits:

Host: Melinda Cohan
Producer and Editor: Michi Lantz
Executive Producer: Danny Iny
Music Soundscape: Chad Michael Snavely
Making our hosts sound great: Home Brew Audio

To catch the great episodes that are coming up on Just Between Coaches, please follow us on Mirasee FM's YouTube channelor your favorite podcast player. And if you enjoyed the show, please leave us a comment or a starred review. It's the best way to help us get these ideas to more people.

Music credits:

Track Title: Clouds
Artist Name: Acreage
Writer Name: Marshall Usinger
Publisher Name: BOSS SOUNDSTRIPE PRODUCTIONS

Track Title: Coastline Dream
Artist Name: Wild Sky
Writer Name: Adam Simons
Publisher Name: BOSS SOUNDSTRIPE PRODUCTIONS

Track Title: Coo Coos
Artist Name: Dresden, The Flamingo
Writer Name: Matthew Wigton
Publisher Name: A SOUNDSTRIPE PRODUCTION

Track Title: Stars & Trees
Artist Name: Outside The Sky
Writer Name: Dustin Ransom
Publisher Name: A SOUNDSTRIPE PRODUCTION

Special effects credits:
24990513_birds-chirping_by_promission used with permission of the author and under license by AudioJungle/Envato Market.

Episode transcript: Stop Building a Business That Burns You Out (Maegan Megginson).

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Shana Lynn explores the secrets of client retention, highlighting the power of onboarding, progress recognition, and genuine community. She shares actionable retention systems and the crucial role of alignment between marketing and delivery, offering coaches practical strategies for growth.

Shana Lynn is a retention strategist, community experience expert, and creator of the Retention Accelerator Framework.

In this episode, Melinda and Shana talk about:

• Why clients leave—even when the content is solid
• How to build retention through momentum, not just community
• Shana’s red-yellow-green check-in system for spotting disengagement
• What to include in onboarding to set up long-term success
• The myth of “content is king” and what actually keeps clients
• How to create visible progress that motivates clients to stick with it
• The difference between satisfaction and real client transformation
• Using data and feedback to fine-tune the experience beyond conversion
• Why coaches must take ownership of client energy after the sale
• Simple, scalable systems to elevate retention without overwhelm

  
  

Guest Bio:

Shana Lynn is the trusted advisor for top-tier subscription companies looking to amp up their customer retention. She leverages her unique blend of time-tested community-building principles with modern, data-backed tactics. Her systems-based approach simplifies retention while making room for those personalized, standout moments that customers love. Shana’s company, Community Cultivated, equips and empowers community and retention leaders for online businesses. With over 10 years of notable experience, Shana is a sought-after speaker, consultant, and guest expert. Soak up her latest insights on her podcast, Community Creators with Shana Lynn.

Resources or websites mentioned in this episode:

Mirasee
Coaches Console
Melinda’s books: The Confident Coach and The Professional Coach
Shana Lynn’s Podcast: Community Creators Podcast
Shana Lynn’s Website: ShanaLynn.com
Shana Lynn’s Instagram: @shanaspeaks
Shana Lynn’s LinkedIn: LinkedIn.com/in/shanabresnahan
Shana Lynn’s FB: Facebook.com/shanaspeaks
Shana Lynn’s Course: ShanaLynn.com/cultivate

Credits:

Host: Melinda Cohan
Producer and Editor: Michi Lantz
Executive Producer: Danny Iny
Music Soundscape: Chad Michael Snavely
Making our hosts sound great: Home Brew Audio

To catch the great episodes that are coming up on Just Between Coaches, please follow us on Mirasee FM's YouTube channel or your favorite podcast player. And if you enjoyed the show, please leave us a comment or a starred review. It's the best way to help us get these ideas to more people.

Music credits:

Track Title: Clouds
Artist Name: Acreage
Writer Name: Marshall Usinger
Publisher Name: BOSS SOUNDSTRIPE PRODUCTIONS

Track Title: Coastline Dream
Artist Name: Wild Sky
Writer Name: Adam Simons
Publisher Name: BOSS SOUNDSTRIPE PRODUCTIONS

Track Title: Coo Coos
Artist Name: Dresden, The Flamingo
Writer Name: Matthew Wigton
Publisher Name: A SOUNDSTRIPE PRODUCTION

Track Title: Stars & Trees
Artist Name: Outside The Sky
Writer Name: Dustin Ransom
Publisher Name: A SOUNDSTRIPE PRODUCTION

Special effects credits:
24990513_birds-chirping_by_promission used with permission of the author and under license by AudioJungle/Envato Market.

Episode transcript: Why Clients Leave—And How to Make Them Stay (Shana Lynn).

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Christian Ray Flores unpacks grit, resilience, and antifragility through his remarkable journey from child refugee to international pop star and coach. His actionable strategies to thrive amid unpredictability and harness gratitude will help you reframe suffering into transformative personal growth.

Christian Ray Flores is an American artist, entrepreneur, evangelist, philanthropist, investor, coach, and the co-founder of Third Drive.

In this episode, Melinda and Christian talk about:

• Definitions and differences between fragility, resilience, and antifragility, citing Nassim Taleb
• Christian’s personal story illustrating adaptation and antifragility
• Coaching techniques for helping clients shift from fragility to antifragility, including reframing exercises
• Role of constructive suffering and intentional growth, avoiding ego-driven martyrdom
• The importance of finding and anchoring to one’s “why” with daily contemplation
• Gratitude practices for processing life’s challenges and growth
• The coach’s role in modeling and fostering antifragility in clients
• Strategies for supporting clients through setbacks, including temporary reliance on resilience
• The concept of apprenticeship and the importance of learning from mentors
• Summary of practical takeaways on reframing, gratitude, and intentionality for thriving in adversity

Guest Bio:

Christian Ray Flores, co-founder of Third Drive, brings a world of incredible experiences and insights to the table. He was at one time a top-of-the-charts pop singer in Russia and Ukraine. In fact, his song “Our Generation” was utilized by Russian President Boris Yeltsin’s 1996 campaign to mobilize young voters and defeat the Communist Party candidate. Despite his success, however, there was still an emptiness to Christian’s life that eventually led him into a life of faith. Now an Austin-based entrepreneur working in both the profit and non-profit worlds, Christian brings first-hand insights into the current conflict between Russia and Ukraine — as well as bringing his life-strategy insights to clients and followers.

Resources or websites mentioned in this episode:

Mirasee
Coaches Console
Melinda’s books: The Confident Coach and The Professional Coach
Christian’s website: ChristianRayFlores.com
Christian’s coaching and personal brand website: Xponential.Life

Credits:

Host: Melinda Cohan
Producer and Editor: Michi Lantz
Executive Producer: Danny Iny
Music Soundscape: Chad Michael Snavely
Making our hosts sound great: Home Brew Audio

To catch the great episodes that are coming up on Just Between Coaches, please follow us on Mirasee FM's YouTube channelor your favorite podcast player. And if you enjoyed the show, please leave us a comment or a starred review. It's the best way to help us get these ideas to more people.

Music credits:

Track Title: Clouds
Artist Name: Acreage
Writer Name: Marshall Usinger
Publisher Name: BOSS SOUNDSTRIPE PRODUCTIONS

Track Title: Coastline Dream
Artist Name: Wild Sky
Writer Name: Adam Simons
Publisher Name: BOSS SOUNDSTRIPE PRODUCTIONS

Track Title: Coo Coos
Artist Name: Dresden, The Flamingo
Writer Name: Matthew Wigton
Publisher Name: A SOUNDSTRIPE PRODUCTION

Track Title: Stars & Trees
Artist Name: Outside The Sky
Writer Name: Dustin Ransom
Publisher Name: A SOUNDSTRIPE PRODUCTION

Special effects credits:
24990513_birds-chirping_by_promission used with permission of the author and under license by AudioJungle/Envato Market.

Episode transcript: Why Anti-Fragile Coaches Create Lasting Impact (Christian Ray Flores)

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Life and leadership coach Tonya Herb explores how failure can be transformed from a source of shame into a stepping stone for growth. Drawing from her personal journey and client work, she reveals practical strategies to reframe setbacks, build resilience, and turn feedback into forward momentum.

Tonya Herb is the founder of Outspoken with Tonya Kay.

In this episode, Melinda and Tonya talk about:

• Redefining failure as a stepping stone rather than a setback
• The impact of perfectionism on coaches and their businesses
• Recognizing signals and symptoms of perfectionism and people-pleasing
• Distinguishing between fear-based perfectionism and high expectations
• The importance of mindset shifts and emotional intelligence when dealing with failure
• Viewing failure as feedback and not taking it personally
• Practical strategies for handling failure, including the "STEER" formula
• Setting healthy boundaries and empowering others
• Using core values as an anchor during challenges and failures
• Understanding both failure and success as feedback and integral parts of growth

Guest Bio:

Tonya Herb is the founder of Outspoken with Tonya Kay, where she empowers individuals and organizations to ignite their potential, overcome doubt, and take action to create a life on their own terms. As someone who went from climbing the corporate ladder to embracing a life of self-discovery and empowerment, Tonya understands the toll that high expectations can take on a person. Her journey from stress and perfectionism to clarity and peace fuels her mission to guide others through similar transformations. Combining real talk, practical strategies, and a touch of fun, Tonya makes personal growth not just attainable, but genuinely enjoyable.

Resources or websites mentioned in this episode:

Mirasee
Coaches Console
Melinda’s books: The Confident Coach and The Professional Coach
Tonya’s website: TonyaKay.co

Credits:

Host: Melinda Cohan
Producer and Editor: Michi Lantz
Executive Producer: Danny Iny
Music Soundscape: Chad Michael Snavely
Making our hosts sound great: Home Brew Audio

To catch the great episodes that are coming up on Just Between Coaches, please follow us on Mirasee FM's YouTube channelor your favorite podcast player. And if you enjoyed the show, please leave us a comment or a starred review. It's the best way to help us get these ideas to more people.

Music credits:

Track Title: Clouds
Artist Name: Acreage
Writer Name: Marshall Usinger
Publisher Name: BOSS SOUNDSTRIPE PRODUCTIONS

Track Title: Coastline Dream
Artist Name: Wild Sky
Writer Name: Adam Simons
Publisher Name: BOSS SOUNDSTRIPE PRODUCTIONS

Track Title: Coo Coos
Artist Name: Dresden, The Flamingo
Writer Name: Matthew Wigton
Publisher Name: A SOUNDSTRIPE PRODUCTION

Track Title: Stars & Trees
Artist Name: Outside The Sky
Writer Name: Dustin Ransom
Publisher Name: A SOUNDSTRIPE PRODUCTION

Special effects credits:
24990513_birds-chirping_by_promission used with permission of the author and under license by AudioJungle/Envato Market.

Episode transcript: Grab Life by the Handlebars—Even After Failing (Tonya Herb).

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Spiritual business coach Calvin Correli shares how integrating spirituality with entrepreneurship transforms not only business results but inner growth. Through personal stories, he illuminates how facing fears and shifting beliefs unlocks creativity, abundance, and authentic leadership for coaches.

Calvin Correli is a spiritual business coach and the founder and CEO of Simplero.

In this episode, Melinda and Calvin talk about:

• The integration of spirituality and entrepreneurship in coaching
• How personal beliefs, subconscious conditioning, and early life experiences impact business results
• The idea that business problems are often spiritual or personal growth challenges in disguise
• Awareness and self-reflection in identifying and transforming limiting beliefs
• The shift from a victim mindset to a creator mindset for coaches and entrepreneurs
• Embodying feelings and states of being to achieve desired outcomes
• Simple spiritual practices, like relaxation, breathwork, and openness, for coaches and clients
• Balancing practical business goals with spiritual growth and non-attachment to results
• How coaches can model growth for clients and attract ideal clients by showing up authentically
• Overcoming fear of judgment and embracing heart-led, service-oriented practices in building a coaching business

Guest Bio:

Calvin Correli is the founder and CEO of Simplero, as well as a speaker, author, investor, and spiritual business coach. A coder since he was 5, Calvin thinks in systems and constantly looks to simplify everything he touches.

Resources or websites mentioned in this episode:

Mirasee
Coaches Console
Melinda’s books: The Confident Coach and The Professional Coach
Calvin’s website: CalvinCorreli.com
Calvin’s book, Show Up and Serve: Simplero.com/book
Simplero’s website: Simplero.com

Credits:

Host: Melinda Cohan
Producer and Editor: Michi Lantz
Executive Producer: Danny Iny
Music Soundscape: Chad Michael Snavely
Making our hosts sound great: Home Brew Audio

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Music credits:

Track Title: Clouds
Artist Name: Acreage
Writer Name: Marshall Usinger
Publisher Name: BOSS SOUNDSTRIPE PRODUCTIONS

Track Title: Coastline Dream
Artist Name: Wild Sky
Writer Name: Adam Simons
Publisher Name: BOSS SOUNDSTRIPE PRODUCTIONS

Track Title: Coo Coos
Artist Name: Dresden, The Flamingo
Writer Name: Matthew Wigton
Publisher Name: A SOUNDSTRIPE PRODUCTION

Track Title: Stars & Trees
Artist Name: Outside The Sky
Writer Name: Dustin Ransom
Publisher Name: A SOUNDSTRIPE PRODUCTION

Special effects credits:
24990513_birds-chirping_by_promission used with permission of the author and under license by AudioJungle/Envato Market.

Episode transcript: Your Soul Built Your Business to Wake You Up (Calvin Correli).