This is currently the longest chat I’ve had and we discuss a lot of topics. We delve into how growing up in a small town you follow the cool kids from other schools, how kicking a torp gets you suspended and how school rules have completely changed, what happens when you fail to have a clear direction and it’s consequences, being the front man for band that found major success in the melodic hardcore scene and being able live out childhood dreams, how hard it is to establish yourself and the competition between others, if you are a dick, you won’t be asked twice, the public opinion and understanding that work is what we do, it’s not who we are and the power of yes and the power of no.

*Footnote*

I made the call that No Scrubs was sung by Destiny’s Child when in fact is was sung by TLC. Apologies.