In this episode, I chat with the man behind Log and Leaf. Log and Leaf has been ten years in the making, starting off by playing around in the shed with his son, to custom hand made wood crafts. We discuss what it’s like to be at the top of the ladder to going back down to the very bottom and realising that you need to remove yourself, disregarding all advice for those who haven’t walked the walk, why “finish lines” are not great and learning to accept a situation for what it is.