In this episode, I sit down with Russell Gartner.

I've known Russell for the better part of a decade and that is quite evident in how this chat flows.

This episode taught me more than Russell realises so I thank him for his time and sharing his experiences.

We discuss a lot of decisions, experiences, and moments regarding tradesman life/TA, FIFO and realising when shit gets real, marriage and divorce and being at a low only to dive down even lower, gambling addiction/chasing loses and telling yourself you are in a good space, lying, trust, confessing, second chances, and having to losing everything before the lesson kicks in, counselling and reaching for help with the realisation that that it isn't weak.