Allie, Kristina, and Max discuss the novel's stickiest sex scenes (1:14); how telling stories is different than giving advice (5:38); the narrator as sex worker, the reader as client (12:18); Joshua Whitehead joins the conversation (14:07); stories do everything (16:00); a humility is just a humiliation you love so much (23:15); doing bear sex better than Marian Engel did (26:59)