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Quanice and Bert talk about how leaders are not stepping up (they always waiting on US), how a lot of our journeys are not linear, why national advocacy work needs to be more collective, and the current state of the sector all while sipping on 19 Crime and Bed-Vyne Wines <3

Resources from Episode:

• Dr. Rosephanye Powell's story 
  • UPDATE: In the Fall of 2025, Indiana Bible college sued Dr. Rosephanye Powell and the case was dismissed 
• No, just No by Alan Harrison: https://www.artsjournal.com/scenechange/2025/05/20/no-just-no/

This episode was recorded May 27, 2025.

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