Host J.D. Reager is joined by one of his all-time favorite songwriters, Matthew Caws of Nada Surf.  They talk about the election results and how Matthew found inspiration in America's deep political divide, meeting and recording with Ric Ocasek, the band's relationship to their breakthrough hit "Popular," how the album Let Go brought them back after a career setback and his solo collaborations with Telekinesis and Juliana Hatfield.  Then Matthew performs the Nada Surf song "Just Wait."