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Murmurations: Journal of Transformative Systemic Practice and Everything is Connected Press are pleased to host the SYSTEMIC LIVES PODCAST.

Part 2: 
Justine van Lawick in conversation with Gail Simon about her life, influences and hopes. Justine's doctoral research was on Practices of Hope, now published as a book. She is a founder of the Lorenzhuis in Amsterdam and is a leading figure in the field of systemic therapy.

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📺 Watch the video versions of these episodes and find out more by visiting the Systemic Lives page.