In this episode Byron was joined by returning guest Kaeley Triller Harms in conversation with Abraham Lateiner. Kaeley identifies herself as a Christian feminist and accidental activist working to support women’s rights within her Conservative Christian circles and beyond. Abraham identifies as a politically progressive feminist. His recent work has primarily been focused on men, with the aim of transforming cultures of masculinity away from their traditional emphasis on coercion and dominance. He wants to cultivate a culture that sees support as a essential value for protecting all forms of life. Kaeley and Abraham tackle the following controversial question: Can (and should) the hard-won sex-based rights of women be reconciled with efforts to support people with transgender identities? Their shared aim was to explore ways to support the flourishing of all people.

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