Abhay is joined by political commentator and public interest attorney, Kaivan Shroff.  They talked about everything from longevity in the political news cycle to two Indian American Republican presidential debaters to mentorship.  
(0:00- 2:13) Introduction
(2:13) Part 1 - newscycle longevity, centrism, democrat strategy
(14:43) Part 2 - Ivy league merit, identity, Republican debate, surprising validators
(37:54) Part 3 - identity politics for Indian American candidates
(45:46) Part 4 - over-woke cancel culture warriors, mentorship lessons