Anti-trans bills in the USA, gay adoption again up for debate, it's not the best time to be gay in the USA…again. But it's even worse in Chechnya. TV's "Modern Family" and Producer of Welcome to Chechnya Jessie Tyler-Ferguson and Producer/Director David France join us from the Dorians Film Toast 2021 to discuss this important film, and what is being done to help these people. Listen wherever you get your podcasts, watch and subscribe at youtube.com/reallykarel and donate at patreon.com/karel