Karen Bures, the executive director of a nonprofit afterschool program, discusses her experience in the education system and the inspiration behind starting her after school program. The program focuses on skill building, social-emotional learning, and academic support. Karen highlights the positive impact the program has had on students' self-regulation and academic engagement. In this conversation, Karen and John discuss the ineffectiveness of suspending students and the need for alternative approaches to behavior management. They emphasize the importance of building relationships with students and creating a positive classroom environment.