What happens when we take the writer away and ask two great artists to interview each other the first time they meet in person?

To kick off this year's Musicians on Musicians podcast, Karen O of the Yeah Yeah Yeahs and Michelle Zauner of Japanese Breakfast come together to discuss their songwriting craft, growing up Korean American, and the cathartic pleasures of smashing glass.

In the past two years, Zauner released both a Grammy-nominated album, Jubilee, and a bestselling memoir, Crying in H. Mart. Zauner — who performs as Japanese Breakfast — grew up idolizing Karen O, the Yeah Yeah Yeahs singer famous for her magnetic stage presence and New York swagger. Recently, the Yeah Yeah Yeahs recently released Cool It Down, their first album in nine years. Now that she’s back and setting stages on fire again, Karen O. was more than happy to sit down with Zauner and be the mentor she wishes she’d had when breaking through.

Produced by OBB Sound.

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