I had such a great discussion with Karen Phelps Moyer for this episode. I first learned of Karen's work because she founded Camp Erin, which is a camp for kids ages 6-17 who are grieving the loss of a loved one, and which runs camps in many locations across the US. Now, Karen is working with widowed people and others to reimagine love after loss. I had the pleasure of talking with her initially back in episode 51, and since dating and potentially looking for a "Chapter 2" is a topic that many widowed people grapple with at some point, I thought it would be a good time to have her back on the show to give us an update.

Some topics Karen and I discuss include:

• Why it may be easier to think about "finding adult company" rather than "dating;"
• Sometimes it's helpful to "release and replace" thoughts that are not working for us;
• Why she believes that everyone can "reimagine love;"
• There's no need to take down your pictures just because you're bringing someone new into the house;
• Talking to your kids about dating;
• How zoom chats can help you get a better sense of a person that messaging online; and
• The importance of working on yourself as you begin considering reimaging love.

I hope you enjoy my discussion with Karen Phelps Moyer.

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