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Karl France Interview - Part 1 (Ep. 015)


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Episode 015 | Chat with Karl France - NYU Men's Volleyball Assistant Coach (Part 1) | October 2020

In this episode of The MentalCast, host Dan Mickle sits down with long-time friend Karl France, assistant coach for NYU Men’s Volleyball. This conversation was sparked by a casual discussion between the two during the COVID-19 pandemic, and what unfolded was a thoughtful deep dive into language, perception, and sports culture.

Dan and Karl explore the way words like “normal” and “average” are used in everyday life and in the sports world, and how these terms often create unintended limitations or misunderstandings. The two also touch on one of sports’ most heated debates: MJ vs. Kobe vs. LeBron.

This is just Part 1 of their conversation — there was far too much ground to cover in one session, so stay tuned for Part II in a future episode!

Topics covered:

  • How the words “normal” and “average” shape mindset

  • Reframing language for better coaching and leadership

  • The MJ, Kobe, and LeBron debate

  • Personal reflections from two long-time coaches

  • A preview of what’s to come in Part II

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