How much credit should political advisor Karl Rove get for Donald Trump’s White House win? In 2016, Rove — the man who helped architect George W. Bush’s successful gubernatorial and presidential campaigns — gave candidate Trump a lesson on how he did it. In this episode, Rove, who served as Bush’s senior advisor and deputy chief of staff, also talks about how the Republican Party has changed since his time in the White House — and what kind of Democrat could beat Donald Trump in 2020.