<p>Karl Wolfwood and Jonas Goins sit down with Todd and Clinton to talk about their upcoming submission-only grappling match at FCF 60 and share many laughs while talking shop.</p>

Karl Wolfwood and Jonas Goins sit down with Todd and Clinton to talk about their upcoming submission-only grappling match at FCF 60 and share many laughs while talking shop.

Karl Wolfwood and Jonas Goins

Todd Ryan, BJJ black belt and owner of Ryan BJJ in Tulsa, OK and blue belt producer Clinton Switzer sit down with guests from the BJJ/MMA community and beyond.

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Karl Wolfwood and Jonas Goins

Karl Wolfwood and Jonas Goins