In this episode, Jacinta speaks with Anna Ezekiel, honorary fellow in the philosophy department at the University of York, about Karoline von Günderrode, a 19th century German philosopher, poet, and dramatist. It is a wide-ranging conversation touching on multiple works by Günderrode, such as the unpublished essay fragment the Idea of the Earth and the play Udohla, and Ezekiel draws out the connections between Günderrode’s metaphysics and political philosophy, as well as explaining her concepts of the self, friendship and gender. Ezekiel’s scholarship has played an important role in increasing Günderrode’s profile in Anglophone philosophy, and she rounds out the episode by sharing the demands that are entailed by working on a figure whose works have not historically been considered philosophy.