The first international guest on this one-person Dutch podcast, with none other than Oxford economist Kate Raworth.

At Kate's home in the United Kingdom we talk about psychology, the ethics of 'freedom,' and the impact the Doughnut Economy has brought. A conversation for both those familiar with her work and complete newcomers. Best enjoyed with some hot rooibos tea.

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This podcast is also watchable on YouTube.