This conversation features a discussion on security concerns specific to the rapidly growing number of Internet of Things devices and recent legislation passed in California to regulate them. Joining the discussion is friend of the show, Kathleen Glass from 2B Advice, and first-timer Ro Cammarota from the CTO office of Intel AI Research, San Diego. At Intel, he is currently working to grow the effort on Secure and Private Computing, Trustworthiness, Agile Hardware, and Standards for AI Systems.