‘Retirement provocateur’ Kathleen Kennedy Townsend played an instrumental role in the debate over retirement issues, resulting in significant policy ideas. A founder of the Georgetown University Center for Retirement Initiatives, the 40-year political veteran and former Maryland Lieutenant Governor joins American Retirement Association CEO Brian Graff for a provocative discussion about making it easy to save, state auto IRAs, national retirement plan proposals, and why people just don’t want to talk about retirement.