In this episode, I spoke to Kathryn Jones, an acclaimed speaker, #1 best selling author, Click Funnels dream car winner, and funnel design GURU. Kathryn shares her secret weapon (that most entrepreneurs didn't even know existed...), Design Hacking! We get to talk about how even though design hacking is a pretty well kept secret, this six-step proven science of design hacking can help literally anyone create aesthetically extraordinary pages engineered to convert, without ANY design skills, and how design, when you look at it as a science, can be the deciding factor between getting started and taking off!