Today's episode is with Katie Mabry van Dieren, the Owner and Curator of one of the world's top indie craft fairs, The Strawberry Swing and the Co-Founder and Director of Arts & Programming of Troost Market Collective, a non-profit organization whose mission is to create equitable economic opportunity for creative entrepreneurs, inspiring future generations through innovative partnerships and programming.  Katie is a champion for community and the maker movement. Her own maker business, Papillon Kate, leads one of Etsy's largest maker teams with over 800 local Etsy businesses. She is the owner and co-founder of Craft Show CEO.