In honor of Keegan Hale, this special episode of Dwell on These Things features a brand-new introduction from Greg Pilcher, recorded just weeks after Keegan’s passing. Greg reflects on their decades-long friendship, the deep spiritual lessons they learned together, and the profound hope found in 2 Corinthians 5 as they both walked through serious illness.In this conversation—originally recorded in May 2022—Greg and Keegan join host Paul to discuss Jesus’ teaching on sacrificial service from John 12. With honesty, humor, and striking clarity, they explore what it means to follow Christ in the midst of suffering, why investing in people is worth every cost, and how God meets us with goodness even in our hardest seasons. Speaker: Keegan Hale, Greg Pilcher, Paul Alexander