Football is essentially over until training camp. But our ongoing conversation continues, without football this week.

We started this season of SHIT2GRIT revisiting the violent tale of Cam Sutton, which apparently occurred when he was dealing with a failed relationship. We've also been talking about all the factors that go into giving a player a 'max' contract, and the lack of coaching players get about turning it off after they've been coached a lifetime to play violently.

Those three takes are the subjects of these three outtakes from conversations past.

Theme music: Mr. Jukes and Barney Artist, "Blowin Steam (Open Up Your Mind)"