In this episode of the Witnessing Christ Podcast, four evangelist interns — Noah, Aaron, Caleb, and Ethan — join the conversation to unpack Keep Showing Up: A Utah Pastor’s Journey by Pastor Scott McKinney, who faithfully served over 30 years at Center Point Church in Orem, Utah.

Together with host Pastor Mark Parsons, the interns explore what it means to serve in the heart of Mormon country and how McKinney’s story reveals the challenges, joys, and gospel-centered perseverance required in ministry. They discuss:

• How McKinney’s personal story and early experiences shaped his heart for outreach in LDS communities.
• The shift from a“fortress mentality” to a mission-driven mindset focused on loving people as God does.
• The struggle between measuring ministry “success” by numbers versus faithfulness to the gospel.
• Why less is more—and how “Jesus is enough” counters the gospel of “more” found in Mormon culture.
• Key lessons for future pastors on building relationships, showing empathy, and keeping the main thing the main thing.

Filled with thoughtful reflections and practical takeaways, this episode encourages all Christians—not just future pastors—to “keep showing up” with the love of Christ, even in challenging ministry environments.

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