The Living Matters Podcast

Keep the Human in Human Design — with Jonah Dempcy


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Author and teacher Jonah Dempcy joins Aypril to discuss his new book The Human Design Cult and the deeper questions it raises about belief, integrity, and personal agency within the Human Design space.

Jonah shares stories from his early mentors and teachers in Human Design—people who studied directly with Ra Uru Hu—and reflects on how the system has evolved over time and how our understanding of it continues to expand.

Together, Aypril and Jonah explore:

- The origins of “keep HD cult free” and why critical thinking matters in spiritual systems

- How even a powerful tool like HD can become its own source of conditioning

- Why some teachings (like “no choice” or “the not-self”) can inadvertently remove agency

- How to restore empowerment, nuance, and personal responsibility to readings

- The grief and liberation that come with leaving or reshaping a belief community

Jonah also shares insights from other typology systems—like Enneagram, Attitudinal Psyche, and Objective Personality—and what makes a teaching or community “safe” versus controlling.

Key Quote:“It’s called Human Design, not Robot Design. We are human beings—this system should help us remember that.”

📘 The Human Design Cult is available on Amazon, with ebook and audiobook editions coming soon.


Connect with Jonah: jonahdempcy.com or on Instagram @jdempcy or YouTube @JonahDempcy

Connect with Aypril: ayprilporter.com | Instagram @ayprilporter

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The Living Matters PodcastBy Aypril Porter