Greg Olear is joined by the historian, columnist, and author Elwood Watson. They discuss Biden-Harris 2024, Biden’s place in history, how the 2020s are like the 1850s, the potential for a new civil war, creeping fascism, the word “woke,” and the current state of masculinity. Plus: Grateful.

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