As the world buzzes about the chaos caused by 21-year-old Jack Teixeira and the online chat service Discord, the new Thomson Reuters Institute Insights podcast examines the real conversation around the data breach controversy and other security concerns.

Rabihah Butler, corporate compliance & risk specialist for the Thomson Reuters Institute, speaks to Jim Dinkins, former executive associate director of Homeland Security Investigations, who provides a unique perspective on the data breach. In a world of checks and balances, where privacy is competing with security, the pair discusses how best to keep the balance.