Brian Phillips is joined by Keith McCurdy, President and CEO of Total Life Counseling in Roanoke, Virginia. In addition to his over 30 years of counseling experience, Mr. McCurdy has spoken at the annual conferences for the Society for Classical Learning (SCL) and the Association of Christian and Classical Schools (ACCS). 

In this episode, Brian and Keith discuss the value of struggle, how hardship makes us stronger, and how those truths can be applied by parents and teachers alike.

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