Artist, writer, and fan Kelley Jones (Batman, Dracula, Deadman, Sandman, Swamp Thing) joins the podcast. Kelley details his time working on the Batman Knightfall Covers in the 90's, culminating in the breaking of Batman, pushing the limits at DC Comics.

He discusses DRACULA, his partnership with Matt Wagner, and how he made a monster out of Bane in the 90's. Kelley talks about early horror cinema’s influence on his gothic storytelling, the impact of Bernie Wrightson, Graham Ingels, and Wally Wood, his friendship with Sam Kieth, and the details of his substantial back catalog of original art.

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