In this special live episode in partnership with Ogilvy ReWired, an employee community for neurodivergent, chronically ill and disabled folk and allies our hosts Amy Dick (SheSays President) and Opal Turner (SheSays Creative) sit down with Kelly Gordon, founder of With Not For.

With Not For is a disability-founded talent and production agency on a mission to bring more disabled talent into the creative industries. This conversation lays down some truths about existing in spaces that were not built for you, how technology can help and the impact of external and internalised ableism. Then it gets practical with a simple solution for encouraging reasonable adjustment disclosure and the benefits of communities like ReWired.

Editing from Isabel Agustina Barker & Chor Yeen Fung.

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