• This is the second half of an interview Kemp Brinson conducted with Simon Linford; you can find the first half of the interview in episode 23.
• In this half Simon and Kemp discuss the "zones" of ringing, barriers to progression, and goals & aspirations in ringing.
• Next we hear about the genesis and structure of the Birmingham School of Bell Ringing, a program of St. Martin's Guild. 
• Kemp and Simon discuss the challenges of ringing long lengths, and particularly ultra-peals that push the boundaries of ringing. (See, for instance 20064 spliced surprise maximus or 210 minor methods all-the-work.)
• Finally, an update on St. John's, Hanley. Followed by another update: they have a home!

Thank you, friends.