Ken Vandermark is a brilliant Jazz musician who has been awarded the MacCarthur Genius Fellowship for composing. He joins CWMD for a very impassioned conversation about how artists are viewed in America, the challenge of pushing yourself to say something new each night on stage, the differential of what creative people are trying to accomplish and what they achieve and the how society judges work based on worth. Vandermark is a force and anyone creative or interested in art and music should not miss the episode. Anyone who is creative or interested in creativity should listen to this episode.

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