In my conversation with composer and musician Kenji Bunch, we discuss the value of listening to all music with respect and curiosity; why he draws parallels between his eclectic approach to music and classically trained food chefs; why improvising and playing in non-classical styles can be really difficult for classical musicians; what it was like to be a bi-racial Asian kid in the 1970's; why giving ourselves permission to fail publicly leads to flexible musicianship and connection; and why improvising is like the movie, "The Matrix."