A special bonus episode, and something a little different: our intrepid hosts were recently in Charlotte, North Carolina for the 31st convening of the Congress for the New Urbanism, an organization that advocates for people-centered design in cities all over the country. In this episode, we catch up on what what we liked, what we saw, and what we learned at CNU this year. If you were there or if you’ve got any other thoughts on how urbanism influences local leadership, politics, and activism, shoot us an email at [email protected]. We’ll be back soon with more interviews about what’s possible in America’s cities. For now, thanks for listening and please share this episode with all the city-builders you know.